wau!! fucken wau!!​​
   it's one of the best explanations/insights i ever read about
   HolisticMedicine.
   i send it to all of my friends who already understand that "there is
   something MORE than the stupid MD approach to a multi-leveled creature
   like human being"...
   no way i'll send this pearl to the clowny-johny people.
   thanks from the depth of my heart, \0xd.
   alex.
   ---------- Forwarded message ----------
   From: \0xDynamite <[1]dreamingforward@gmail.com>
   Date: 2017-03-27 0:51 GMT+03:00
   Subject: Re: [From offlist] Re: FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire
   Because They All Smoke Pot
   To: John Newman <[2]jnn@synfin.org>
   Cc: [3]cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org
   Okay, since you refuse to argue on reasonable grounds, I won't respond
   to all of your attacks which didn't have any real argument except
   attempts to demerit the concept of Holistic Medicine.  For the sake of
   the list, I'm going to clarify what and why an H.D. is superior an
   M.D. which you so fondly massage their crotch for, even though you are
   probably overweight, nursing one or more addictions, and have lost
   some desire to live exhibitiing some low-level depression.  (This is
   the common case for liberal Americans.)
   Holistic Health is greatly superior, even if not (to the published
   establishment) scientifically more superior, because *logically*
   health ITSELF is a factor of the WHOLE (hence HOListic), not the sum
   of it`s parts (like reductionist Occidental medicine, who's glory
   mostly goes back to the study of dead cadavers and anatomy -- those
   who failed at making health).
   Do you get this first point (reductionist vs. holistic)?  Holistic
   Medicine *includes* the science that reductionism has built, but also
   includes a WHOLE other set of data:  the subjective side of health
   (how does the placebo affect has such an effect on health, for
   example?).  So, it *transcends* the present medical establishment in
   everyway, except when it comes to blunt trauma, like I said, where
   they have mastery (bone setting and wound dressing).  EVERYTHING else
   is 100% better served via holistic medicine.  Unfortunatley, there
   just aren't many people trained in it.  I practially had to (re)invent
   the field, because it was awash in pseudo-science, naive spiritualism,
   and confusions of it's own identity and the use of drugs/supplements
   as medical aids.
   So I will define it here:  Holistic Health can diagnose and cure ANY
   disease that Western medicine CLAIMS to cure but without invasive
   procedures, including chemical-based ingestives (or inhalation).
   Further, it can avoid the diseases and even mishaps in the first place
   by creative a more holistic relationship to self, family, the
   environment, and the divine.  I'll define this latter, for the sake of
   arguing, as "that which transcends the human mind to grasp or
   comprehend, but, nonetheless, exerting a force upon life itself".
   Now that wasn't so hard was it?  Is that really difficult to take or
   understand.  Western medicine would confound you with specialized
   language, multi-million dollar equipment, and colored pillls -- all
   types of power you likely have already given away becuase it seemed
   impressive, right?
   Well, America is one of the most diseased, confused, and destructive
   nations on the planet and you and I know it.  It's on the street, it's
   on Indian reservations, it's in abortion clinics and cosmetic
   enhancement clinics, the larger-than-usual prison population, and it's
   in the alarming severity of some brith defects.
   So, tell me, why do you keep arguing for THEM?
   > Do you know how a mailing list works? Your email was to me, with the
   > list copied.
   No, it was actually addressed to Razor.  You, please, are in a state
   of delusion, arguing with me, holding on to your last little island of
   power that America has left you -- you're own voice.
   > Specialized language ? What specialized language would that be?
   Nobody is
   > using big words here, "Doctor".
   Do you actually understand "neurology"?  No, and I know this because
   doctors don't understand it, so how could you?
   > But pain is often an accompanied symptom of terminal illnesses.
   Again, why
   > should someone who is dying be forced to suffer? You're a fucking
   sadist.
   They're not forced.  They are feeling the weight of their life
   decisions.
   >>> Fuck you, you don't know shit about me or my health you judgemental
   >>> fucking wannabe chump doctor of "holistic health"
   You've given me a lot of data by your outbursts.  Do they say
   something about you?  About what forces run your life, for example?
   > My argument has been clear from the start: what people do in their
   private
   > lives is none of your fucking business!
   But it's not private.  If you planted a tree 50 yrs ago and made a
   table with your own hands, the table is yours, but you didn't make the
   power in marijuana.  Something else did.  Should people be able to
   take whatever they want and use anything as they wish?  Is that what
   you argue?
   > Well bully for you. Did you get your law degree at the same site
   selling
   > the doctorate in holistic medicine?
   No, I got it from the only school worhty of issuing one:  the school
   of hard knocks.  Maybe you feel intimidated by people with degrees
   when you have none, but I'm using them to educate you.  Why fight me?
   \0xd

References

   1. mailto:dreamingforward@gmail.com
   2. mailto:jnn@synfin.org
   3. mailto:cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org