On 03/26/2017 08:43 AM, \0xDynamite, an intellectual 'hole' into which
   people throw their time responding, repied to John Newman's factual
   statement:

     NOT THAT IT MATTERS, but Prozac is in fact ananti-depressant.

   With:

You mean not that it matters, because you don't have a way to argue
out of your own hole, so "repeat what I already said tactic here".

   Fact:

     The effectiveness of fluoxetine and other antidepressants in the
     treatment of mild-to-moderate depression is controversial. A
     meta-analysis published by Kirsch in 2008 suggests, in those with
     mild or moderate symptoms, the efficacy of fluoxetine and other
     SSRIs is clinically insignificant...

   Lilly originally redacted a little bit in their study that showed a
   placebo, when given by a trusted health worker with the admonishment
   "Try this. It will help", worked as well as "Prozac" does.

     A paper on antidepressants by Kirsch and co-authors published last
     month in PLoS Medicine has received a lot of attention. The
     antidepressants studied are the six most widely prescribed approved
     between 1987 and 1999: Prozac, Paxil, Effexor, Serzone, Zoloft, and
     Celexa.
     The Editors' Summary explains:
         The researchers obtained data on all the clinical trials
     submitted to the FDA ... They then used meta-analytic techniques to
     investigate whether the initial severity of depression affected the
     HRSD [Hamilton Rating Scale for Depression] improvement scores for
     the drug and placebo groups in these trials. They confirmed first
     that the overall effect of these new generation of antidepressants
     was below the recommended criteria for clinical significance. Then
     they showed that there was virtually no difference in the
     improvement scores for drug and placebo in patients with moderate
     depression and only a small and clinically insignificant difference
     among patients with very severe depression.
     The difference in improvement between the antidepressant and placebo
     reached clinical significance, however, in patients with initial
     HRSD scores of more than 28—that is, in the most severely depressed
     patients.
     Additional analyses indicated that the apparent clinical
     effectiveness of the antidepressants among these most severely
     depressed patients reflected a decreased responsiveness to placebo
     rather than an increased responsiveness to antidepressants.
     The press simplified it further. The MSNBC headline was
     "Antidepressants may not help many patients". The Guardian
     announced: "Prozac, used by 40m people, does not work say
     scientists".

   In Full, with charts, graphs, and statistical analyses:
   [1]http://logbase2.blogspot.com/2008/03/upping-anti-depressant.html
   Marijuana works to relieve what can only be described as "Social
   Anxiety" (which is Zoloft's target market btw, singling out women) for
   MANY people, unlike the so-called ANTIDEPRESSANT Prozac ... and
   marijuana isn't even a drug. It's an herb, 'holistic boy'. Unless you
   think Comfrey, Sassafras, and the raft of other herbs you lernt about
   in assholistic skool are 'drugs' ... because they contain therapeutic
   ingredients.
   That said, "\0xDynamite" added to my spamcan list.
   Rr

References

   1. http://logbase2.blogspot.com/2008/03/upping-anti-depressant.html