On 02/13/2017 09:27 AM, Aivon Gnaiden wrote: On 02/13/2017 08:29 AM, Razer wrote: I've seen sites that appear to use the mac address of you computer to effectively keep you from creating another account Websites can't see your mac, only the mac of the nearest router, which is not enough to identify the visitor even on small site. Flash cookies was a very common practice some time ago, though. Ok then. Maybe they block the mac of the nearest router. At the time it happened to me (4-5 years ago) I was always working over the same wireless connection. Also, Computer 'names' are transmitted. One can see that on IRC. I broke out of an email relay's black hole once by changing my computer name (windows, a decade ago). Flash cookies are still quite common even with the advent of cleaners that remove them. Hidden ones might be harder to find unless you physically go searching for them. Rr