No man, I was talking about Zen. Shitbag that started this thread. I'm totally on board with your analysis of American politics. I think Trump is a slight outlier, not really possessed of any ideology but his own ego, and almost honest about it with his visceral moronic outbursts. John On Jan 31, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Razer <[1]g2s@riseup.net> wrote: I hope you don't consider my comment trolling John. I'm quite serious. The democrats and republicans do not exist as separate ideological entities. They are in collusion with each other. Because 'Merican Exceptionaism uber alles'. US Libertarians have that social disease too, and are no different than the other two mainstream factions of US government. Further... If you or anyone else reading this finds THAT offensive, I also have a VERY harsh view of what passes for US immigration policy. In a nutshell. "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me," It doesn't say give us your HIRED THUGS and people who interpreted the CACI tortured screams of their fellow countrymen in a CIA secret prison, does it? It doesn't say give me your economic elite and the people who have corporate connections to fast-tracked H1-B visas.... Does it? I elaborate: [2]https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/825901439729942528 Still at the top of the pile ... scroll down a bit, then up. Rr "What is to be abolished is not the reality principle; not everything, but such particular things as business, politics, exploitation, poverty." -Herbert Marcuse On 01/31/2017 07:22 AM, John Newman wrote: On Jan 30, 2017, at 8:13 PM, Shawn K. Quinn [3] wrote: On 01/29/2017 06:08 PM, #$%&#$ %&#$%&#$ wrote: This is getting ridiculous, Trump must be stopped before he turns America into a White nation - he is shockingly close now to being Literally Hitler!!! What can we do? This is why I voted for Hillary. What can we do, you ask? If you're in the US, call your Representative and Senators, especially if they happen to be Republicans, and say you want to see Trump impeached. If they actually do their damn jobs, the probable cause for an impeachment is damn near staring them in the face. If you aren't? Not sure on that one. -- Shawn K. Quinn [4] [5]http://www.rantroulette.com [6]http://www.skqrecordquest.com Dude, don't feed the trolls ;). He does not care about your earnest response to what is clearly a setup he's des igned to "trigger" those "liberal lefties" ..... *big fucking groan*. I hope someone punches me in the dick if use those phrases again. References 1. mailto:g2s@riseup.net 2. https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/825901439729942528 3. mailto:skquinn@rushpost.com 4. mailto:skquinn@rushpost.com 5. http://www.rantroulette.com/ 6. http://www.skqrecordquest.com/