On 12/29/2016 11:01 AM, grarpamp wrote: On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Razer [1] wrote: [2]http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/12/23/virgin_america_flight_samsung_note_7/ [3]http://auntieimperial.tumblr.com/post/56481532633 It's ambiguous whether they simply forgot their offsite gag and carried it onboard having not been advised by staff (companies always follow spokesman policy right), or intentionally set it to carry out an onboard gag. A moron regardless. Further... the typical position and strength of any consumer lithium battery 'explosion' relative to any structure, sheeting, or wiring critical to the planes survival... seems not really a threat. Nor is any properly managed cabin fire from such a relatively localized source, the materials in cabin are retardant / resistant to burning, more smoke than fire. The real threat is the panicking morons on the plane. Not necessarily terminal mechanical damage to the craft... Toxic smoke. Lethal toxic smoke was filling the craft so the pilot, doing what he was trained to do, pointed it towards somewhere he was pretty sure there wouldn't be anyone or thing on the ground destroyed, and they all suffocated. That's the speculation of commercial pilots on their bbs's at the time. The crash climb and dive recorded by radar was an attempt to put out the fire. The complete power shutoff is SOP when there's an electrical fire. You might consider reading the article if you haven't. It's also applicable to what happens when military-industrial complex design strategies are applied to computers and networks. Rr References 1. mailto:g2s@riseup.net 2. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/12/23/virgin_america_flight_samsung_note_7/ 3. http://auntieimperial.tumblr.com/post/56481532633