On 12/15/2016 01:10 AM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On 12/13/2016 02:34 AM, grarpamp wrote: On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 1:24 PM, #$%& [1]<#$%&#$%&@gmail.com> wrote: nuke is worse than oil and has the same 'geopolitical dependencies'. I know it has sourcing and mining issues but we know safe open crowd reviewed plant designs and open inspections are possible for those bold enough to set aside secret corp profit bullshit, and obviously there are zero emissions, except for waste. And maybe similar source reserve timescales as hydrocarbon fuels. The issues I have with nuclear energy, are that when things go wrong... they go *really* wrong. Sure, they may not fail as often as they used to, but that doesn't mean shit isn't going to *really* go sideways when it does. Seriously, the Fukushima disaster makes the Exxon Valdez and Deepwater Horizon incidents look like a few guys pissed in the ocean. Nom nom nom radioactive fish... Sigh... Don't forget about the thousands of abandoned capped-off wells in the Gulf with deteriorated concrete casing leaking continually and unchecked (map and more on request) But about Nuclear Power... Just in, radioactive water plume hits West Coast: No danger seen from Fukushima 'fingerprint' on US West Coast [2]http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2016/1213/No-danger-seen-from-Fukus hima-fingerprint-on-US-West-Coast But that report isn't REALLY 'breaking'. That report is based on Woods Hole findings it took a YEAR for CSM to get around to: [3]https://www.whoi.edu/news-release/fukushima-higher-levels-offshore And thanks for all the radioactive tuna, too. [4]https://swfsc.noaa.gov/textblock.aspx?Division=FRD&id=20593 No matter ... since everything but the Southern Ocean is fished out. 90% of the 'food fish' are gone, and that 'whitefish' in your fishsticks/patties/etc. is whatever they can find with white flesh... Off the coast of Chile. Ps. Peak Farming per Scientific American. Sixty Year until Soylent Green is reality. [5]https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/only-60-years-of-farming- left-if-soil-degradation-continues/ Fuck the kids. Just give 'em an iphone, PokemonGo and tell 'em to stfu. Rr References 1. mailto:/#$%&#$%&@gmail.com 2. http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2016/1213/No-danger-seen-from-Fukushima-fingerprint-on-US-West-Coast 3. https://www.whoi.edu/news-release/fukushima-higher-levels-offshore 4. https://swfsc.noaa.gov/textblock.aspx?Division=FRD&id=20593 5. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/only-60-years-of-farming-left-if-soil-degradation-continues/