Thanks for link, I rather liked it =)
   I always liked what Eco I've read (only Foucault's Pendulum,
   and the Name of the Rose...)
   John

   On November 23, 2016 11:55:00 PM EST, Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:

I refer to Umberto Eco as the (snigger) "Authority"
It doesn't take much to understand fascism. 9 pages and 14 ways of
looking at a Blackshirt is plenty.
[1]http://www.pegc.us/archive/Articles/eco_ur-fascism.pdf
z9wahqvh:

     a more reasonable right-wing definition of fascism is one offered by
     the
     guy who invented it, Benito Mussolini (actually mostly by his court
     philosopher Giovanni Gentile). Here's just one important part (more
     here:
     [2]http://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/mod/mussolini-fascism.asp):
     For Fascism, the growth of empire, that is to say the expansion of
     the

     nation, is an essential manifestation of vitality, and its opposite
     a sign
     of decadence. Peoples which are rising, or rising again after a
     period of
     decadence, are always imperialist; and renunciation is a sign of
     decay and
     of death. Fascism is the doctrine best adapted to represent the
     tendencies
     and the aspirations of a people, like the people of Italy, who are
     rising
     again after many centuries of abasement and foreign servitude. But
     empire
     demands discipline, the coordination of all forces and a deeply felt
     sense
     of duty and sacrifice: this fact explains many aspects of the
     practical
     working of the regime, the character of many forces in the State,
     and the
     necessarily severe measures which must be taken against those who
     would
     oppose this spontaneous and inevitable movement of Italy in the
     twentieth
     century, and would oppose it by recalling the outworn ideology of
     the
     nineteenth century - repudiated wheresoever there has been the
     courage to
     undertake great experiments of social and political transformation;
     for
     never before has the nation stood more in need of authority, of
     direction
     and order. If every age has its own characteristic doctrine, there
     are a
     thousand signs which point to Fascism as the characteristic doctrine
     of our
     time. For if a doctrine must be a living thing, this is proved by
     the fact
     that Fascism has created a living faith; and that this faith is very
     powerful in the minds of men is demonstrated by those who have
     suffered and
     died for it.

     notice all that emphasis on "decadence," on the expansion of Empire,
     on the
     "strength" of "the nation," on militarism? it's pretty hard to make
     that
     work with the creation of social security and welfare programs (aka
     The New
     Deal), or FDR's patent lack of interest in the kind of militaristic
     nationalism that -- oh, he eventually went to war against, but only
     after
     being dragged kicking and screaming, mostly through the US being
     attacked
     directly.
     but what did Mussolini know about fascism (despite being the leader
     of the
     actual movement that gave us the word)?
     On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:26 PM, z9wahqvh <z9wahqvh@gmail.com>
     wrote:

     On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 2:37 PM, juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:

     I wonder what an 'updated' new deal is considering that the
     Original New Deal was chemically pure fascism...

     in which Juan-who-swears-he's-not-an-authoritarian-right-winger
     demonstrates that he gets his analysis of fundamental political
     categories
     from authoritarian right wingers (the only people--especially Hayek
     himself
     and National Review editor Jonah Goldberg--who describe the New Deal
     as
     having anything whatsoever to do with fascism, which it did not).

   --
   Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

References

   1. http://www.pegc.us/archive/Articles/eco_ur-fascism.pdf
   2. http://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/mod/mussolini-fascism.asp