On 11/16/2016 11:05 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: What's being asked for (and no, I have no easy answers either), is how do we transition whilst minimizing interim aggression. Eggs-ack-ly. On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 01:48:46AM -0300, Juan wrote: On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 23:28:21 -0500 grarpamp [1] wrote: On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 10:48 PM, Razer [2] wrote: [?] Well, those are the practical everyday questions people like Juan refuse to answer and explain the potential workings That is not how it works =) A few points in no particular order : a) I am under no obligation to explain anything b) there are TONS of literature dealing with political philosophy c) utilitarianism is a joke d) at any rate, it's aggressors who should be doing the explaining. People who support the state's authority should provide the 'rational' basis for their obey-or-die 'philosophy' Ack. of to people who might then vote for his nobodys. If you want a vote you have to put it in everyday practical terms. No offense to the Juans's out there, just saying. No problem. I just explained why it's a mistake to demand explanations =P Problem is, we're not starting from a blank slate. We have aggressors, carrying guns, extorting money, as our starting point. What's being asked for (and no, I have no easy answers either), is how do we transition whilst minimizing interim aggression. And no, neither your nor nobody is obliged to answer that question. There's merely a hope that we might find a sane pathway out of this mess we are collectively in. Good luck, References 1. mailto:grarpamp@gmail.com 2. mailto:rayzer@riseup.net