See the germans get it > [1]https://plus.google.com/+RT/posts/9VgStMJqnu6 Really the longer everyone just stands and gawks at the dead bodies the longer it will take to clear the space of debris On Oct 3, 2016 12:29 PM, "Cari Machet" <[2]carimachet@gmail.com> wrote: I am always astounded by intelligent people buying into political theater ... please take a history lesson ... start before the formation of the NSA and look at the roles of the council on foreign relations ... there is also the formulation of the central bank > the fed which is privately held ... then have a bit of a discussion with yourselves On Oct 3, 2016 12:09 PM, "John Young" <[3]jya@pipeline.com> wrote: All leaks advance a particular agenda with biased information, that is their purpose. None are neutral or wholly truthful or complete representation of material assembled for release. Withholding and redaction and censorship are obligatory for the marketing pretense of candor. No reason to expect WikiLeaks to be any more honest and angelic than the context from which it derived, is sustained, and reaps the rewards from. The information spectrum from openness to Top Secret Codeword is single complicity with pretense of oppositional multiples to cloak the covert unification. Moreover, leaks, like hacking and whistleblowing and Tor and privacy policy and HTTPS, have become lucrative businesses, profit and celebrity driven. These are urged and supported by the giants, pipsqueaks, start-ups and spy fronts of commerce and non-profits and governments. Leaks are tools of spies before all else, and spies are tools of authority. Inherently dirty, deceptive, manipulative, dishonest, all too human. Primarily leaks are entertainment, and in this like political campaigns, lies and prevarication are essential. But this is the case with media of all kinds, history, economics, business, social research, science, math, religion, education, cryptography, comsec, infosec, espionage, NSA, The Intercept, Snowden, Manning, Assange, and so on, especially here. References 1. https://plus.google.com/+RT/posts/9VgStMJqnu6 2. mailto:carimachet@gmail.com 3. mailto:jya@pipeline.com