On Fri, Sep 23, 2016, 17:16 Zenaan Harkness <[1]zen@freedbms.net>
   wrote:

     What many in the West don't get is that many Russians are a
     patriotic
     lot, and hardy in their nationalism, and with the history of the
     world
     since perestroika, they carry now a not insignificant disdain for
     "the
     West".
     Putin really is the most moderate politician that is actually
     acceptable/ electable in Russia.
     And this is not a comment on the particular man, Vladimir Putin, but
     on
     the political positions or nature of him - by Russian sensibilities
     he
     is very moderate, excessively accomodating to the Western regimes,
     and a
     bit too much of a "weak pussy" who ought to have stepped in and
     militarily protected the Donbass (the area where the Russian people
     in
     Eastern Ukraine live), should teach the West a royal lesson in
     Syria,
     and generally dish out some Russian justice to the axis of Western
     evil.

   You do realize you're insulting Russians by calling them jingoists,
   right? But I guess you don't realize that, since you seem to think
   calling someone a "nationalist" is a compliment.
   This is like saying that we should be happy that PETA is only trying to
   ban horsemeat, and we shouldn't fight them on it, because what they
   REALLY want to do is ban ALL meat and pet ownership and force us to be
   vegetarians. Or let's go ahead and give Poland to the Nazis, because
   that's just a tiny thing compared to what they REALLY want!
   I get that Russians are pissed about how they've been treated since the
   end of the Cold War. Far longer, really. Just like I get that Germans
   were pissed about how they were treated after they lost WWI. You see
   where I'm going with this?
   The solution in both cases, by the way, is TRADE. When goods cross
   borders in sufficient quantities, ICBMs won't. But the Russians seem to
   want the US to be run by a Putinesque strong man, too. One who thinks
   trade is a weapon to deployed only when it suits one's own interests.
   You seem to think Hillary has her finger on the nuclear button, but the
   fact of the matter is Trump does too. The major difference between the
   two is that Hillary actually knows it, whereas Trump is suffering so
   badly from Dunning-Kruger (as are you, AFAICT, assuming you aren't
   simply a paid propagandist) that he genuinely thinks he'd make us safer
   by returning us to a pre-WWII world of 30% tariffs and trade wars.

References

   1. mailto:zen@freedbms.net