On 9/14/16 5:13 PM, Razer wrote:


On 09/14/2016 12:55 PM, Sean Lynch wrote:

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 7:23 AM, Razer <[1]rayzer@riseup.net
[2]<mailto:rayzer@riseup.net>> wrote:

    ...
    So he returns home to a hero's welcome and a year later he's been
    involved in a fatal car wreck, or airplane crash, or, as a cover story
    when he's found dead in a ditch on a back road in Florida, tortured and
    beaten to an unrecognizable pulp, "the Russians did it".

    I think there's a serious underestimation here of just how murderous the
    US government is if someone betrays them... Hell! You don't even have to
    betray them. Just annoy the wrong people.

    Sorry Edward Snowden is in Exile for life whether he likes it or not, if
    he wants to stay alive.


I agree that if I were Snowden I wouldn't ever trust the USG, but I
don't see how it serves the government's purposes to have him die in any
way where would-be whistleblowers don't at least strongly suspect is
connected to his leaks. They want to make an example of him, because
leaks are the thing the USG is by far the most vulnerable to.



I was talking in terms of a pardon or commutation received. OFC they'd
try him if he simply returned.

Rr

Ps. They don't care how obvious it is that they killed him if they did
as long as there's plausible deniability. It has the added bonus of
terrorizing other whistlebowers and dissuading new ones no matter how
blatant the assassination. Aamof, the more blatant the better from the
terrorism perspective. I'm REALLY surprised they haven't already begun
doing it to his friends and rela... Oh WAIT!

   If that is ever found to be true, Americans would freak out.
   Government only has authority to the extent that they follow the rule
   of law.  It's already the stuff of conspiracy theories.  Any solid
   proof of unchecked ongoing abuse not explained away sufficiently, which
   would inevitably leak eventually for anything happening consistently,
   would cause gigantic backlash.  The ultra-right gun lobby and the
   liberal sophisticates and others would unite and squash anyone
   responsible.  Now that we have instances of clear video proof to
   actually get at the truth more consistently, look at the reform cycle
   happening with police.  Messy, slow, annoying, but inevitably toward
   less abuse and more transparency.

Ioerror.

Institutional assassination

Rr

   sdw

References

   1. mailto:rayzer@riseup.net
   2. mailto:rayzer@riseup.net