On 9/5/16 8:13 AM, Razer wrote:

On 09/04/2016 10:30 PM, Zenaan Harkness quoted, I believe John Young:


That sounds like what cypherpunks was set up to combat, the withdrawal from poli
tcial affairs into safe sanctuary of infallible mathematics...

   My take on the Cypherpunks charter:
   Cypherpunks exists to promote free speech, establish that free speech
   includes the freedom to have secure private speech, and to explore how
   this can be accomplished.  In support of this, to understand
   implications of technology-enabled free speech and the technical,
   commercial, and political moves needed to protect free speech.
   What this does not include is promoting or bashing particular political
   systems or plotting their demise or constantly going on about insane
   nonsense.  We've seen that train wreck before, Lance.


That's how ALL the problems start. Cloistering and it's whorehouse,
Academia.

   Nearly all problems come from ignorance.  Celebrating ignorance is
   ignorant.  Not seeing that problems almost universally are the result
   of ignorance and then complaining about those who work to rise above
   ignorance is ignorant.  Sometimes well-studied people make mistakes or
   are ignorant outside of their narrow focus.  Ignorant people constantly
   make profound mistakes and often breed more ignorance.  There is
   nothing to celebrate there.
   If you are ignorant, you are being manipulated.  You are essentially
   helpless, a pawn in somebody's plan.  It's cute how those who are
   gradually becoming aware suddenly see how they are being controled and
   oppressed, but usually have a gaping understanding gap.  Teenagers are
   sure that their parents are controlling and oppressing them.  (And they
   often are, but often not in the way that a teenager thinks.)  A college
   kid who first reads Rand is sure they completely understand how the
   world works in clear black and white.  People reading conspiracy
   theories and bits of history think they completely understand the
   nefarious mechanics of the world.  Plausible and possible become
   certainties, resistant to facts and first-hand knowledge and even
   common sense.  Tiresome nonsense, endlessly repeated.  OFF TOPIC.

Einstein said if he had known what they were going to do with his
theoretical works he would have never cooperated.

Don't be "Einstein".

   Don't be the ignorant people he was complaining about.


Rr


   sdw