On 9/3/16 11:32 PM, juan wrote: Playing with the 92-98 archive... From: [1]tcmay@got.net (Timothy C. May) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 95 10:48:20 PDT To: [2]cypherpunks@toad.com Subject: Re: CYPHERPUNK considered harmful. "Similarly, there's the Libertarian Party, with similar themes to our own..." "Getting back to your suggestion that "we" change the name to something more respectable. How could "we" do this, given that "we" are an effective anarchy?" The group was "an effective anarchy". So is hanging out with your friends. Corporations (and families for that matter) are, classically, dictatorships. Does that make the political and economic system they operate in dictatorships too? "Form your own group, your own mailing list, with a catchy name, something like "The Privacy Education Foundation," or "The American Civil Liberties Union" (whoops, taken), or "The Society for the Preservation of Cyberspatial Liberty." " "Evolution in action. The market in action. A better approach than trying to get the name and the charter changed." A market in action... ps: messages from the great philosopher Stephen D. Williams? 77 in total, stopped posting in 1995 - messages are either content free or nerdy, useless, technical stuff. And firewalls: [3]http://www.greatcircle.com/firewalls/archive/firewalls.199502 We were talking about crypographic and security related topics, like firewalls and protocols, time stamping services (which I implemented a couple times for widely used services), etc. I even found time to correct Tim May, who cried uncle sort of. ;-) I happened to have personal knowledge of that situation. I wasn't mature enough to philosophize much then. I lurked later, being extremely busy implementing things and other pursuits. sdw References 1. mailto:tcmay@got.net 2. mailto:cypherpunks@toad.com 3. http://www.greatcircle.com/firewalls/archive/firewalls.199502