I don't get why applebaum does not consider making a fork himself, when
   there is so much disillusionment around tor?
   7:33 AM, August 22, 2016, Jester <jester@cock.li>:

     Razer:

      Me: "Jake was taxing them about flawed protocol? Really!"
      The other: "No, no directly - he was saying that protocol hardening
     is
      what as needed, but the USG funders want browser improvements. UX
     over
      substance.

     22:30 < mikeperry> I have no doubt that the CIA would find Tor
     useful,
     and its
     funding would not comrpromise us, but as I said then, the optics
     would be so
     bad that the et improvement to Tor from such funding would not be
     worth
     the bad
     PR
     22:31 < ioerror> mikeperry: Funding does compromise us
     22:31 < ioerror> I am clear on that now.
     22:31 < ioerror> Tor is compromised.
     22:31 < ioerror> When we are paid to work on a browser rather than
     anonymity
     improvements of Tor HS, we are co-opted
     22:31 < ioerror> It is a faustian pact
     22:32 < ioerror> When we set the road map and found funders to fund
     us,
     it was
     different
     22:32 < ioerror> we haven't done that for a long time
     22:32 < ioerror> The money has corrupted us
     22:32 < ioerror> And now, we're hoping for influence
     Full chat log: https://archive.is/2geXW

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