Lord Kelvin, died in 1907, before there were "accurate computer models"
   that could show anything at all. Certainly that makes this a meager and
   unsatisfactory quote.

   There is abundant research, of the scientifically valid kind, showing
   that the climate is changing, and indeed it would be strange if it were
   not. You are illustrating the op's point nicely, w/r/t politicized
   scientific bullshit.

   On Aug 16, 2016, at 2:26 PM, jim bell <[1]jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:

   From: John Newman <[2]jnn@synfin.org>
   >I disagree, vehemently.  Global warming is not a red herring.
   Permafrost is melting, oceans are rising and acidifying, and the future
   for big >coastal cities is looking very bleak indeed.  There is a
   scientific consensus on this issue.
   I don't see how there can be "scientific consensus" unless there are
   accurate computer models which show how up climate temperature
   increases as a product of addition of CO2 to the atmosphere.  Both
   qualitatively and quantitatively.  How much do these problems
   represent?
   From Lord Kelvin:

“When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers,
you know something about it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your
knowledge is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind; it may be the beginning of
knowledge, but you have scarely, in your thoughts advanced to the stage of
science.”

   [3]http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/166961-when-you-can-measure-what-you
   -are-speaking-about-and
   There is also the prospect of adding SO2 to the high atmosphere to
   counteract heating, which could be a very cheap solution.
               Jim Bell

References

   1. mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com
   2. mailto:jnn@synfin.org
   3. http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/166961-when-you-can-measure-what-you-are-speaking-about-and