Did you just propose we send everything in cleartext :D 4:59 AM, July 31, 2016, Rayzer : On 07/30/2016 12:21 PM, juan wrote: On Sat, 30 Jul 2016 07:18:48 -0700 Rayzer wrote: How arrogant are the 99.9999% of users to think they're more than a flyspeck on the windshield of the NSA's torbot rayzer doing his job again - telling people to use garbage like tor and telling people that the government isn't really paying attention. I didn't tell anyone to use tor in my post and that's right... They aren't really paying attention. They're just storing data for "attention" at some point when it becomes worthwhile to them. In five minutes, 5 hours, years, or never. The idea is to fly under the radar so it's 'never'. Once you're on their radar there's (snigger) "No Place To Hide" (the title of Greenwald's book about hooking up with Snowden), Rr locomotive? That you matter to them and are worth spending more than a few nanoseconds on? Rr -- You’re not from the Castle, you’re not from the village, you are nothing. Unfortunately, though, you are something, a stranger.