On 07/31/2016 10:04 AM, Bastiani Fortress wrote: Did you just propose we send everything in cleartext :D Not EVERYTHING! Go about your biz... Nothing to see here. Just some dickpics, move along. But if you need security. Use a computer you've never used before in a town or place you've never been before for your secure coms then destroy it and do the same with the $5 burner phone from 7-11. I figure it would take at least a 1/2 hour or so before a Predator Drone made it to that location from the nearest military base so you have some time. The implication is if you're publicly 'subversive' on the internet in any way that's really a threat there's no way to secure anything and you're essentially, as someone once said about 'revolutionaries', a 'dead man on furlough'. Rr 4:59 AM, July 31, 2016, Rayzer [1]: On 07/30/2016 12:21 PM, juan wrote: On Sat, 30 Jul 2016 07:18:48 -0700 Rayzer [2] wrote: How arrogant are the 99.9999% of users to think they're more than a flyspeck on the windshield of the NSA's torbot rayzer doing his job again - telling people to use garbage like tor and telling people that the government isn't really paying attention. I didn't tell anyone to use tor in my post and that's right... They aren't really paying attention. They're just storing data for "attention" at some point when it becomes worthwhile to them. In five minutes, 5 hours, years, or never. The idea is to fly under the radar so it's 'never'. Once you're on their radar there's (snigger) "No Place To Hide" (the title of Greenwald's book about hooking up with Snowden), Rr locomotive? That you matter to them and are worth spending more than a few nanoseconds on? Rr -- You’re not from the Castle, you’re not from the village, you are nothing. Unfortunately, though, you are something, a stranger. References 1. mailto:rayzer@riseup.net 2. mailto:rayzer@riseup.net