as usual rayzer you have to name call i get tired of getting drilled for info and told i dont know anything ... boring irritating should i just say google it ? no again read the informative link i sent in this thread On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 8:41 PM, Rayzer <[1]rayzer@riseup.net> wrote: On 07/29/2016 10:12 AM, Cari Machet wrote: If you read the link i sent you would know there is residual power left on the device and an internal battery for specific tasks Also malware can be placed on your device Its sad that ppl on this list dont know tech Right. The REMOVABLE sim card needs to be phone powered and even flight mode would kill anyone's ability to R/w access the card's data. What happens when the phone is powered on? Well that's why they're called "Smartphones"... because they're smarter than the typical user. Unless you expect an immediate drone strike as soon as they geo-locate seconds after the first cellsite polls your phone, you buy a burner android from tracphone or Virginmobile at your nearest 7-11. Use it, and burn it. IF what you're doing is so fucking important and secretive, you can afford the $29.95. Rr Ps. I've got the better part of an RF engineering degree under my belt. I know electronics tech. You know shit. There's also a number of other peeps around here with electronic-mechanical skills. Pps. It's sad that you're such a douche On Jul 29, 2016 7:32 PM, "Spencer" <[2]spencerone@openmailbox.org> wrote: Hi, Cari Machet: sim card is detectable without power This does not seem physically possible, at least without super villain resources. Wordlife, Spencer -- Cari Machet NYC 646-436-7795 [3]carimachet@gmail.com AIM carismachet Syria +963-099 277 3243 Amman +962 077 636 9407 Berlin +49 152 11779219 Reykjavik +354 894 8650 Twitter: @carimachet <[4]https://twitter.com/carimachet> 7035 690E 5E47 41D4 B0E5 B3D1 AF90 49D6 BE09 2187 Ruh-roh, this is now necessary: This email is intended only for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this information, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this email without permission is strictly prohibited. References 1. mailto:rayzer@riseup.net 2. mailto:spencerone@openmailbox.org 3. mailto:carimachet@gmail.com 4. https://twitter.com/carimachet