Feel free to tell me how any of that relates, even remotely, to what I said. On July 19, 2016 5:07:17 PM PDT, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 04:22:05PM -0700, Ted Smith wrote: ... Feel free to demonstrate how the USA champions democratic principles, respect for sovereignty (national and individual - corporation sovereignty is the problem, not the solution) and the rule of law, as it (the USA BIMSIC - banking, industrial, military, suveillance, injustice complex) drones humans to death, every day, in at least 12 countries. Feel free to initiate a thread on how we might engender, induce or otherwise educate our fellow humans to find authority within themselves, to stand for a principle greater than meat pies and footy, and to act in pursuance of such a principle. Many of us a flat out of ideas - really. And also, feel free to point out how "my" "democratically elected" "leaders" here in Australia are really doing a fine and upstanding job at the helm of this great land, how we should all, individually and collectively be striving to emulate them and how this will lead us into a better place, a better world, a better future. Please, and seriously, any such bit of positive news would be good for my ears as much as for yours, 'cause mostly all I see going on all around the world today is ludicrous unethical evil actions, idiots strutting around as "leaders" spouting abominations against all human decency, common sense and righteousness! Please, do enlighten me - I'll wait... -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.