Calling bullshit. Mirimirs right, explanation makes no sense. And JYA says netso l won't let him delete the logs but Netsol says [1]logs are disabled by default and you have to turn them on. So how the fuckd this really happen? Mirimir Are you arguing that users could have found those logs? I almost can't imagine that. Logs are normally in /var/log/ somewhere, and I can't imagine making them searchable. And indeed, I can't imagine how Cryptome archives would have included anything from /var/log/, even after system restore from backups. <--SNIP--> > Should access logs be kept for that long? Absolutely not. From what I > have read in the email exchange that was posted, the log files were > included in a NetSol total restore. My guess is that John/Cryptome did > not intentionally keep these files, and did not realize these files were > included in the archive. But that's the thing. Logs should have been in /var/log/. And how would the "NetSol total restore" have changed that? > When I do incremental backups or updates on my own systems, I don't > usually go back and check the integrity of files I've already archived > in my closed system. I can see where this could be an honest mistake > that has gotten blown way out of proportion. It's a good lesson to be > more aware of these types of glitches. I still don't get how logs would have ended up in archives. Maybe JYA prepared a special set of archives for a collaborator. Maybe for someone helping him to understand what had happened. And then maybe he forgot about doing that. Hard to say. References 1. https://www.networksolutions.com/support/how-to-enable-download-the-web-logs/