Jitsi desktop or the Jitsi Meet browser app? I've given up on the former, reliability is as bad as Skype and UX is poor. The latter is Chrome only, but reliability and UX is great. On 28 September 2015 12:15:07 IST, rysiek wrote: Dnia poniedziałek, 28 września 2015 10:59:07 piszesz: I've never successfully installed or used the Android APK. Without that there's very, very little point to Tox over just using Jitsi meet, especially when Jitsi's UX design and performance are so good for non-techies. I have never had a single situation, where VoIP over Jitsi actually worked. And I have tried many, many times. :/ -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.