On 7/21/15 8:49 PM, Seth wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:54:25 -0700, Lance Cottrell [1] wrote: I recall it being more nuanced and diverse. I wasn't there in the beginning so I don't have any firsthand knowledge. According to this piece, [1] "Almost all cypherpunks were anarchists who regarded the state as the enemy." I will have to dig to find my archives of that era to be positive, but I'm pretty sure I joined by 1994 at the latest, probably 1993. I installed the first firewall at Bank of America in late 1994, so it may have been much earlier since I'd already been into security for a while at that point. I was part of the whole rise and fall of Detweiller. I'm always puzzled that most people haven't heard of him. [2]http://borg.uu3.net/ldetweil/medusa/detweiler.html I'm basing the claim on the fact that founding member Timothy May wasn't exactly shy about his crypto *anarchy* vision of the future. Not sure what exactly what Eric Hughes or John Gilmore's were at the time. [1] [3]http://onlyinamericablogging.blogspot.jp/2011/03/robert-manne-jul ian-assange-cypherpunk.html sdw References 1. mailto:loki@obscura.com 2. http://borg.uu3.net/ldetweil/medusa/detweiler.html 3. http://onlyinamericablogging.blogspot.jp/2011/03/robert-manne-julian-assange-cypherpunk.html