This is not meaningful speculation since the main point is of the story is not finding out who to blame, it is spreading FUD about the fallout of Ed's actions by spreading blatant lies. Which basically derails a developing dialog: Ed was right, there was overreach/abuse and accounts of premeditated lying attributable to our Government(s) fine agencies. It's fun to watch the government losing face by trying to cover it up. What I saw was a five year old with his hand stuck in the cookie jar. Only the cookie jar is actually the privacy of my own home. No matter the fact that I extend my presence to locations around the globe by way of internets. I am not forgoing my rights to privacy when I directly communicate with others. The very same way I find those rights in the confines of my home. On 6/15/2015 2:10 PM, [1]dan@geer.org wrote: | Glenn Greenwald at The//Intercept on The Sunday Times birdcage liner | 'reporting' that brought the story to press. | | [2]https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/06/14/sunday-times-report-snowden= | -files-journalism-worst-also-filled-falsehoods/ If Snowden had zero copies and Greenwald/Poitras had the originals, then any Russo-Chinese fiddling with those originals was the result of having stolen them from Greenwald/Poitras, not Snowden. As the world turns, --dan References 1. mailto:dan@geer.org 2. https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/06/14/sunday-times-report-snowden=