Yes, I am. I'm assuming that, if someone were to see some sort of
   generic parent solution, and they knew that their parents worked at the
   NSA and were able to use specialized technical skills, then they would
   know that it was just not applicable to their situation. But I'm
   assuming that that would nevertheless be useful for 90% of people. Or
   am I completely wrong about that?
   I don't know exactly what I want/expected. Like, it would be absolutely
   brilliant if there was some general,
   accessible-to-an-arbitrary-more-tech-savvy-than-average-teenager, howto
   security, possibly for simplicity specialized to parent-situations, but
   accessible security is in general a huge unsolved and possibly
   unsolvable problem. I suppose I was hoping to at least start.
   On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Travis Biehn <[1]tbiehn@gmail.com>
   wrote:

   You're just assuming that the generic parental threat isn't omnipotent?
   Employees of the military industrial complex are parents too. There is
   no 'generic parental threat model.'
   What more do you want? What outputs are you expecting here? A
   flow-chart? Graphs & diagrams?
   The advice is the same as any other scenario:
   Threat Intelligence to figure out what the motivations and capabilities
   are.
   Standard opsec advice, such as compartmentalize as best as possible.
   Employ techniques and technologies used to achieve resilience in the
   face of generic nation-state attackers.
   Pursue externally mediated resolution [invoke the State's controls or
   employ physical manipulation] where it is merited.
   -Travis

   On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Gadit Bielman
   <[2]thetransintransgenic@gmail.com> wrote:

   On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Travis Biehn <[3]tbiehn@gmail.com>
   wrote:

   Well,
   Depending on your particular bent options range from:
   Subversion, Evasion, Opposition, Resistance or Appeal to Authorities,
   such as teachers, law enforcement and so on.
   Arguments abound, and are largely the fodder of flame-bait and
   trollery. [Which is the source of my earlier comment, "accepting
   paternalism during youth is the slippery slope to paternalism from the
   state" - this is a popular opinion on this list, I'm sure, as are the
   gamut of opposing viewpoints.]
   This topic is ridiculous, there is no difference between hiding from
   'your parents' and hiding from a nation-state attacker, in both
   scenarios you assume all of your equipment is untrustworthy, you have
   the advantage with 'your parents' because you know who they are, where
   they live, where they sleep and have physical access to all their
   devices.


   There's a big difference. A nation-state attacker you assume is
   maximally competent. Parents you don't. A nation-state attacker cannot
   personally monitor all their citizens. Parents can personally monitor
   all their children. As long as you aren't caught, a nation-state
   attacker cannot arbitrarily restrict your movement. Parents can.
   Besides non-automated methods such as looking up browser history,
   parents have a finite set of commercially-available software, with a
   mostly common set of capabilities. Nation-states have to be sort-of
   cautious -- if there was a mass-reveal of total surveillance of
   everyone, there would at least be some blowback, whereas there's not
   any social pressure on parents at all. In terms of what they care
   about, parents will prioritize moral issues -- being gay, trans,
   atheist, etc., among other stuff, depending on the family -- whereas
   nation-states will prioritize direct plans of action against them.
   There's probably a lot more differences, and I probably messed up on
   some of them. Here's someone else's probably-pretty-inexperienced
   attempt at threat modelling parents:
   [4]http://ilzolende.tumblr.com/post/110002779072/parents-as-a-threat-mo
   del .
   But there's not "no difference".

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References

   1. mailto:tbiehn@gmail.com
   2. mailto:thetransintransgenic@gmail.com
   3. mailto:tbiehn@gmail.com
   4. http://ilzolende.tumblr.com/post/110002779072/parents-as-a-threat-model
   5. https://twitter.com/tbiehn
   6. http://www.linkedin.com/in/travisbiehn
   7. http://github.com/tbiehn
   8. http://www.travisbiehn.com/
   9. https://plus.google.com/+TravisBiehn