ahhhh also seth it appears that dark web is 80 % estimated to be used for child porn so the government appears to be into kiddie porn - that is a big factor i would say in light of the estimation percentage and the fact that molesters in the US are rarely given heavy sentences that is when they prosecute them... On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Cari Machet <[1]carimachet@gmail.com> wrote: dan are you the fucker that doxed me on this list? #boring seth oh yes agreed monolith is inaccurate frames but i think the security state - that has the job of protecting the system no matter what the system looks like or does - is pretty homogenous On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 5:22 AM, grarpamp <[2]grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote: On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 7:17 AM, John Young <[3]jya@pipeline.com> wrote: > Cryptome does not pretend to provide illusory security, that is security. > It is a vile, rotten, corrupt endeavor, like life. Chuckle. > Visitors, readers, consumers must be skeptical of security, and not rely > [...] All due respect to Cryptome, and points well made and taken. Yet this isn't really an effective response to the issue at hand. While we should and must be skeptical... until contrary proof exists we should be taking advantage of all means available regarding distribution integrity and even provenance and secret comms if desired. That's hard, it involves some work, and homework. Yet until such proof, it's probably better than going bare assed to the Sun. > Still, Cryptome endorses the continuing struggle to improve citizen > ... > common math against the deadly germs. Indeed. > One way to do that is to not oversell it, tone down the threats, reduce Interestingly true in some regards. Yet in the context herein, it's probably not the place to make a stand. Especially considering the stand itself is in one's very existance all so long. Is it not? Oh were there but more of this kind, be they true or not :) -- Cari Machet NYC [4]646-436-7795 [5]carimachet@gmail.com AIM carismachet Syria +963-099 277 3243 Amman +962 077 636 9407 Berlin [6]+49 152 11779219 Reykjavik [7]+354 894 8650 Twitter: @carimachet <[8]https://twitter.com/carimachet> 7035 690E 5E47 41D4 B0E5 B3D1 AF90 49D6 BE09 2187 Ruh-roh, this is now necessary: This email is intended only for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this information, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this email without permission is strictly prohibited. -- Cari Machet NYC 646-436-7795 [9]carimachet@gmail.com AIM carismachet Syria +963-099 277 3243 Amman +962 077 636 9407 Berlin +49 152 11779219 Reykjavik +354 894 8650 Twitter: @carimachet <[10]https://twitter.com/carimachet> 7035 690E 5E47 41D4 B0E5 B3D1 AF90 49D6 BE09 2187 Ruh-roh, this is now necessary: This email is intended only for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this information, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this email without permission is strictly prohibited. References 1. mailto:carimachet@gmail.com 2. mailto:grarpamp@gmail.com 3. mailto:jya@pipeline.com 4. tel:646-436-7795 5. mailto:carimachet@gmail.com 6. tel:+49 152 11779219 7. tel:+354 894 8650 8. https://twitter.com/carimachet 9. mailto:carimachet@gmail.com 10. https://twitter.com/carimachet