i do need to read it but at face value - or what u pulled out -
   consensus is not a problem regarding time wasting - as the ideas of
   efficiency are capitalistic and massively overblown + often what seems
   efficient is just short term problem solving - leaving huge gaps for
   people to have to deal with later - the big problem with consensus is
   mob rule - just like the problem we have with supposed democracy in the
   representative manner prolific now

   On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:54 PM, Douglas Lucas <[1]dal@riseup.net>
   wrote:

     The book Binding Chaos by Heather Marsh, who ran WikiLeaks Central
     from
     2010 to 2012, describes a system for governance using the Internet
     as a
     mass collaboration tool. Free, full text PDFs available from the
     landing
     page: [2]http://georgiebc.wordpress.com/2013/05/24/binding-chaos/
     The book describes using stigmergy for work, rather than
     time-wasting
     consensus or coercive hierarchy, approval economy instead of a
     financial
     system, control by user groups rather than democracy, and more.
     Douglas
     On 04/04/2014 03:25 PM, Cypher wrote:
     > On 04/04/2014 09:24 AM, Patrick Chkoreff wrote:
     >> Cypher wrote, On 04/03/2014 05:22 PM:
     >
     >>> But, please, instead of ranting and wild arm-waving, educate me
     >>> if I am wrong. I would certainly /love/ to see a workable, large
     >>> scale, anarchistic plan.
     >
     >> Please, no large scale plans, I beg you. I simply wish to see the
     >> emergent effects of countless individuals interacting with each
     >> other solely on the basis of mutual consent. That is all.
     >
     > Good response, Patrick. But how do you think we're going to get to
     > that? Without concerted action, and it has to be more than
     everybody
     > doing their own thing IMHO, how will that goal be achieved? I hear
     a
     > lot of anarchists saying what you say and it's a fantastic goal.
     But
     > how do we get there?
     >
     >

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