On 27 October 2013 21:07, Bill Cox <[1]waywardgeek@gmail.com> wrote:

   On 10/27/2013 3:31 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:

   On 27 October 2013 18:26, Bill Cox <[2]waywardgeek@gmail.com> wrote:

     I would love feedback on an idea for promoting more internet
     freedom.
     Here's the problem: Tor has little public support, because most Tor
     traffic is wasted on supporting bad behavior. When I ran a Tor node,
     it
     became clear that most of my bandwidth was being wasted on video
     downloads. People want to promote free speech, not child
     pornography.
     Here's my solution: Build a Tor-like network for routing anonymous
     data,
     but track behavior of all users' secret identities, and make their
     Internet history public. Allow node operators to choose categories
     of
     public identities they which to support.
     For example, I would choose to promote all forms of non-violent free
     speech. I should be able to contribute my bandwidth to this purpose.
     If a dissident in China goes by the public ID of ChinaCat, and has a
     high reputation for promoting freedom, they are welcome to use my
     bandwidth. If someone just wants access to [3]redtube.com, they can
     get
     that access from someone else.
     There are various technical aspects to this idea. For example, would
     prefer that the social graph between secret identities be public so
     I
     can use a simple network flow algorithm over trust edges between
     identities to determine how much I trust someone. The entire social
     network should be P2P, like Tor, and it should route a lot of dummy
     traffic to help hide the real traffic. With the considerably lower
     bandwidth that is needed to promote freedom rather than free porn,
     this
     should be no problem.
     What do you guys think?

   I like it a lot. But who is going to volunteer to do this work, when
   people are already busy (not least in coding up things like freedombox)

   I am willing to write it myself. P2P algorithms is something I enjoy
   coding, and this is one of those applications that may be able to do
   some real good for the world.

   I think you would need an economy to incentivize people to do the
   categorization etc.
   Maybe in return for someone helping you route your traffic, you could
   keep an encrypted backup of their data or contribute a code patch to
   their project etc.

   We're thinking along the same lines. I would like to add a Ripple based
   economy to the public social network, based on trust relationships
   between peers as in the original Ripple algorithm. With secret
   identities in the social network, it is less important to keep
   transactions and the trust network secret, which was a problem in the
   original Ripple algorithm. I imagine transactions being done in tiny
   fractions of a cent, for services like helping download files faster in
   a torrent or providing encrypted storage.

   I believe the retroshare project (noted on this list many times) is in
   the process of implementing a P2P ripple (a la Ryan Fugger's original
   protocol) system, or have done so already. Dr Bob told me you can plug
   in other protocols such as GNUNet quite easily. I'm unsure how this
   would gel with Tor tho.
   I'm also looking at translating all of the crypto currency work to a
   web based system. Would be very happy to hear if you make any progress
   on this. Or perhaps we can discuss off list if some stuff is off topic.
   My current line of thinking is hacking the economy so that fbx users
   get their own coins that they can spend with each other, and to give,
   say, 10% of all new coins to the FSF to help lower hardware costs of
   plug computers ...

   Bill

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References

   1. mailto:waywardgeek@gmail.com
   2. mailto:waywardgeek@gmail.com
   3. http://redtube.com/
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