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@ggreenwald
14h
Compare the edited video clip to make it seem like Joe Rogan was
agreeing with this to what he actually said and you'll see: a) how you
should treat everything you see with a large dose of skepticism and b)
how casually they play with race and racism to smear anyone they
dislike:
angak @andual88
Feb 6
Replying to @KnowS0mething
This clip is deceptively edited. Here is the full context:
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@ggreenwald
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Look how viral the deceitfully edited clip has gone:
KnowSomething @KnowS0mething
Feb 5
i'm seeing lots of clips going around of joe rogan saying the n-word,
but what the fuck is this????
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Andrew Wimsatt 🖐 @ajwimsatt
14h
Here is @ggreenwald talking with Howard Kurtz about media resentment
towards Joe Rogan and his podcast.
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@ggreenwald
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I'll be on Fox in a couple minutes with @HowardKurtz talking about the
virtually unanimous effort by employees of media corporations to
pressure Spotify to remove Joe Rogan, and what this says about broader
values of free discourse in the US.
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@ggreenwald
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For months people have been warning that the 1/6 Committee has
exceeded -- by far -- every previous boundary for what congressional
investigative committees can do. Today the NYT finally notices:
they're acting far more like DOJ prosecutors than Congress:
nytimes.com/2022/02/05/us/po…
In Scrutinizing Trump and His Allies, Jan. 6 Panel Adopts Prosecution Tactics

The House committee investigating the assault on the Capitol and what
led to it is employing techniques more common in criminal cases than
in congressional inquiries.
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@ggreenwald
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Many people have decided that 1/6 is so bad that we can't worry
ourselves with legal niceties and civil liberties -- like some did
after the far-worse 9/11. But McCarthy-era Supreme Court cases warned
how dangerous it is to allow Congress to do this:
greenwald.substack.com/p/con…
Congress's 1/6 Committee Claims Absolute Power as it Investigates
Citizens With No Judicial Limits

The Committee plotted with JPMorgan and its lawyer, former Obama AG
Loretta Lynch, to obtain a citizen's financial records with no
possibility of judicial review.
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@ggreenwald
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After 9/11, those of us raising civil liberties concerns about the War
on Terror were accused of siding with Al Qaeda. Same tactic now
employed by neocon-led Dems for 1/6: raising abuse of power concerns
means you're siding with "Insurrectionists." The Constitution still
matters.
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Edward Snowden
@Snowden
Jan 28
Nobody has stronger opinions about Joe Rogan than people who have
never listened to Joe Rogan.
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Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
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He got $100 million because he built a gigantic audience of
ideologically diverse young people -- exactly the audience Spotify and
most other companies want most -- and nobody comes close to his
ability to inspire trust among that group. He doesn't map onto
partisans' brains:
Judd Legum
@JuddLegum
Feb 5
Replying to @JuddLegum
I am not advocating for Spotify to drop Rogan. I am not convinced it
would do anything to help slow the spread of vaccine misinformation.
It might accelerate it. But how did this guy ever get paid $100
million? Spotify should think about that.
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@ggreenwald
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It's crucial that we judge people's use of the N-world not as absolute
proof that they're racist, but through the context in which it was
used -- if they're liberals in good standing:
Wokal Distance @wokal_distance
Feb 6
1/ So, @donwinslow tried to get @joerogan cancelled for saying the
N-word. It turns out that in his books Don winslow has used the n-word
a lot... and I mean a **LOT** So here is a **VERY** long thread of
times Don Winslow has used the N-word in his books.
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Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
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This is about 1,000 times more virulent than anything Rogan has
dreamed of doing but Howard Stern is now a liberal in good standing --
adores Hillary and Maddow, hates Trump, spouts every DNC piety -- so
it's fine. Hillary went on his show, oozed praise:
PG Howie @pghowie3
Feb 6
If people think Joe Rogan is racist, can't imagine what they think
about Howard Stern
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@ggreenwald
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This is why Howard Stern clips like the one from above -- and so many
other worse ones from him over many, many years -- don't matter and
why nobody is trying to get him off the air. He has the right
politics, fitting in perfectly with the NBC/CNN/NYT axis and all their
pieties:
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Steve Krakauer
@SteveKrak
17h
What a morally bankrupt column… co-opting the death of a “beloved”
colleague to spread pro-censorship misinformation - because if he HAD
listened to Joe Rogan, he’s have been urged to get vaccinated, as
Rogan has said many times for someone who is "overweight and
asthmatic."
💫 Margaret Sullivan
@Sulliview
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My former colleague, the beloved ⁦@miggyrod33⁩, died Monday at 47. I
don’t know if he ever listened to Joe Rogan’s podcast; I do know that,
with 900,000 Americans dead of Covid, the misinformation spread there
is inexcusable. My column. No paywall. wapo.st/3oskraQ
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Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
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The person in the above photo who is, by far, at greatest risk from
bad COVID outcomes is the only one not wearing a mask indoors, while
those who have a very low risk all have their faces covered all day.
This has nothing to do with who is and isn't important. It's Science.
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@ggreenwald
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More than double this number have died of COVID under Biden. So what
is the logical conclusion of this tweet?
Joe Biden
@JoeBiden
23 Oct 2020
220,000 deaths. If you hear nothing else I say tonight, hear this:
Anyone who is responsible for that many deaths should not remain
President of the United States.
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Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
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This is the one question that employees of liberal corporate media
outlets will never ask, because it requires looking in the mirror and
that is what they fear doing the most. In their defense, that's a
rational fear.
Whitney Cummings
@WhitneyCummings
Feb 6
Don’t look to why so many people trust joe Rogan, look to why so few
people trust the mainstream media
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@ggreenwald
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The real disinformation agents have been recognized as such by the
American public. They're the ones few people trust, many people
despise, and whose audience is disappearing and who therefore demand
censorship of those who people trust by accusing *them* of
disinformation.
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Secular Talk🎙
@KyleKulinski
Feb 3
I cannot be on Spotify bc of their dangerous misinformation, I declare
in a NYT article, the outlet that gave us this
The New York Times
@nytimes
Feb 3
In Opinion Joe Rogan can continue to air misinformation. Spotify can
continue to look the other way, Roxane Gay writes in a guest essay.
"Today at least, I won't," she says of her decision to remove her
podcast and its archives from Spotify. nyti.ms/3ASETXA
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@ggreenwald
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Judd Legum
@JuddLegum
11 May 2018
Fox News goes all-in on character assassination of Michael Avenatti
goo.gl/15CjMQ
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David Frum
@davidfrum
Feb 6
Congratulations to Tucker Carlson on his appointment as CEO of @benandjerrys
Ben & Jerry's
@benandjerrys
Feb 4
You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war. We call on
President Biden to de-escalate tensions and work for peace rather than
prepare for war. Sending thousands more US troops to Europe in
response to Russia’s threats against Ukraine only fans the flame of
war.
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@ggreenwald
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Number of U.S. COVID deaths under Trump (with no vaccine, few
treatments, and a more deadly variant): 396,837 Number of U.S. COVID
deaths under Biden (with universally available vaccine, better
treatments, and a less deadly variant): 528,379
covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra…
COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one
easy-to-use website.
covid.cdc.gov
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Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
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(Note: this covers 10 months for Trump and a year for Biden, though
the Biden-era death count was also higher after 10 months). Of course
none of this Biden's fault, while all 2020 COVID deaths were blamed on
the Trump. Key: "shutting down" the virus was his core campaign vow.
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@ggreenwald
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Meanwhile: since @staceyabrams is a very sophisticated and important
liberal, I'm sure there's something in The Science™ that justifies her
being maskless indoors, surrounded by young kids forced to wear masks
all day. Maybe she's holding her breath?
Kelley K 😀 * covid-georgia.com @KelleyKga
Feb 5
Yet another picture of an unmasked Democrat surrounded by masked
children. This is at a Decatur, Georgia elementary school, where they
have a district-wide mask mandate. #gapol #UnmaskOurKids
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@ggreenwald
Feb 6
That Rogan represents a threat to corporate media - because he
questions, disputes and dissents from their herd propaganda - is only
one reason they're united against him. Another is petty professional
jealousy: millions watch and trust him while almost nobody
watches/trusts CNN.
Oliver Darcy
@oliverdarcy
Feb 5
This notion that news orgs are only reporting on what Rogan says
because he represents a supposed "threat" to corporate media is a
narrative pushed by people who simply do not understand how newsrooms
work or pretend not to.
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@ggreenwald
Feb 6
Rogan is "corporate media" only in the most technical and least
meaningful sense of the term. Yes, he's paid by a large corporation so
they can carry his content. But he's not answerable to corporate
bosses about who he can interview and what he can say:
Max Tani
@maxwelltani
Feb 5
Joe Rogan is one of the biggest talk show hosts at a tech/media
company worth billions of dollars. He literally is the corporate
media.
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@ggreenwald
Feb 5
I would love to know what percentage of people who are now claiming
Joe Rogan is a racist, an agent of disinformation and someone who
should be de-platformed have ever regularly listened to his shows as
opposed to watching clips selected for them by Media Matters and CNN.
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@ggreenwald
Feb 5
People constantly claim they don't trust large corporate media
outlets, but so often their views on so many controversies are formed
based on what those large corporate outlets tell them to think. All
these people with very emphatic views of Rogan who don't watch his
show.
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@ggreenwald
Feb 5
I'm also wondering whether Bernie supporters now agree with the
criticism that Bernie should never have accepted and touted Joe
Rogan's endorsement of him?
Bernie Sanders
@BernieSanders
23 Jan 2020
“I think I'll probably vote for Bernie... He’s been insanely
consistent his entire life. He’s basically been saying the same thing,
been for the same thing his whole life. And that in and of itself is a
very powerful structure to operate from.” -Joe Rogan
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@ggreenwald
Feb 5
Everything in @MeghanMcCain's tweet is still completely true. Millions
of people still watch and trust Joe Rogan, while Jim @Acosta can't
even attract an audience equal to a mid-sized YouTuber despite being
on CNN prime-time with a giant corporation backing and promoting him.
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@ggreenwald
Feb 5
It was only a question of time before the all-out war on Rogan began.
He's way too big and off-key to permit him to keep going. The concept
of free speech in the US is a mirage: you have it right up to the line
where it matters or can threaten power centers, then you don't.
Tim Dillon
@TimJDillon
Feb 5
It’s a political hatchet job. It’s obvious to anyone with eyes. The
debate about the vaccine has been over. UK just opened no
restrictions. They don’t want him on the air for the next election
cycle. Press Sec asked Spotify to “do more.” It’s not a conspiracy
it’s out in the open
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@ggreenwald
Feb 5
Every major institution is united to destroy Rogan, including the WH.
The Press Secretary -- speaking on behalf of the US Govt -- demanded
Spotify do more to stop him, and this is treated as normal and benign.
Ask Julian Assange if *effective* dissent is permitted.
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@ggreenwald
Feb 5
The power derived from controlling the flow of information is immense.
That's why every tyrant and authoritarian wields censorship power.
Tyranny can't exist without it. And as Orwell and Chomsky have both
said, the most effective form isn't jailing dissidents but doing this.
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@ggreenwald
Feb 5
Read what Orwell said about why censorship in the UK during the war
was so much more effective than the overtly autocratic regimes that
just imprisoned dissidents. The British don't have to: they have their
compliant media unite to punish and destroy the reputation of
dissidents:
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@ggreenwald
Feb 5
We're at the point where we also arrive in these cycles. If you object
to the attempt to silence Rogan, then you will be instantly tarred
with the same brush used to try to destroy him: You're a racist,
anti-vax, etc. etc. That's the enforcement mechanism to keep everyone
quiet.
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@ggreenwald
Feb 5
This racism charge, from splicing together a bunch of context-free
snippets over the years, reeks of desperation but it, too, was
inevitable. Racism accusations are the central toy to every silencing
game in the US. You can make anyone look racist with it
Drunk News Anchor @DrunkNewsHQ
Feb 5
Joe Rogan N Word compilation. Absolutely despicable. There's no
excuses for it. No context makes it better.
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@ggreenwald
Feb 5
By far the most important part of what's happened in this Rogan
melodrama is that WH weighed in, demanding Spotify "do more." It's
part of a long line of Dem politicians using their domination of DC to
coerce censorship: a clear violation of the 1st Am.
rumble.com/vtyr34-democrats-…
Democrats Are Pressuring Companies to Censor For Them: a Violation of
the First Amendment

Defenders of growing online censorship typically use euphemisms to
argue that private companies have the right to make whatever "content
moderation" decisions they want. Even if true, that's not what
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@ggreenwald
Feb 5
If you actually think that finding old clips of someone using the
n-word is proof they're a racist, then you would find this 👇
infinitely more alarming and important given that he is kind of more
powerful than Joe Rogan. But you don't think that: it's just a game to
silence him.
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@ggreenwald
Feb 5
Everyone knows that if Spotify removes Rogan, he will move to a new
platform with his millions of listeners. The points of this: 1) Deny
him the credibility of a major corporate platform. 2) Vilify and
ostracize him to prevent further growth. 3) Create an example for
others.
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@ggreenwald
Feb 5
Good time to post one of Barack Obama's best moments, where he
denounces what he calls "woke" activism as the superficial and
self-serving delusion that it is, explains that it's just about the
self-esteem of the denouncers, and mocks the idea that silencing
people is activism.
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Q. Anthony Omene @qaomene
Feb 5
Name a single liberal pundit with a comparable audience who is even
remotely anti-interventionist. Carlson picks up these viewers because
he’s smart enough to know there’s a massive audience to be had outside
of the Beltway orthodoxy, which MSNBC and CNN enforce rigidly
David Sirota
@davidsirota
Feb 5
One possible takeaway here is that liberal pundits’ loyal cheerleading
for Democratic Party politicians has become so off-putting and
uninteresting that younger Democrats are now shifting to watch a
horrible right-wing fascist. thewrap.com/tucker-carlson-l…
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@ggreenwald
Feb 5
In the past year, Tucker Carlson: 1) repeatedly urged a pardon of
Julian Assange, 2) condemned bipartisan scheme for the US to interfere
in Cuba and is now 3) emphatically opposing US involvement in a war in
Ukraine. Call him whatever names you want. Nobody on NBC/CNN does
that.
David Sirota
@davidsirota
Feb 5
One possible takeaway here is that liberal pundits’ loyal cheerleading
for Democratic Party politicians has become so off-putting and
uninteresting that younger Democrats are now shifting to watch a
horrible right-wing fascist. thewrap.com/tucker-carlson-l…
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@ggreenwald
Feb 5
The left bona fides of @aaronjmate are clear: worked for years at
@DemocracyNow, pro-Bernie, etc. Watch the hearing he got last night on
Tucker, warning of DC's bipartisan fixation on conflict with Russia:
unthinkable on a liberal corporate news outlet:
Aaron Maté
@aaronjmate
Feb 5
1/2 Spoke tonight about the Russiagate playbook, illustrated by the
treatment of AP's Matt Lee, of US officials lodging allegations
against Russia and then painting any skepticism as Kremlin
subservience. Its roots lie in partisan hackery & bipartisan neocon
hegemony:
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@ggreenwald
Feb 5
If you don't see the fact that neocons are all migrating back to the
Democratic Party because the GOP is home to ample anti-imperialist and
anti-militarist sentiment -- while Dems are united in support of it --
it's only because you don't want to see it:
Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
Feb 5
This is a great and important NYT op-ed on the raging foreign policy
debate within the GOP and American right -- far more vibrant than the
lock-step Dems -- and how how the GOP establishment is trying to keep
the party pro-war, imperialist and militarist:
nytimes.com/2022/02/05/opini…
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Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
Feb 5
That's why I didn't get an answer to this and never will. There is no answer.
Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
Feb 5
Replying to @ggreenwald
Even if you're on the left and you've deluded yourself into believing
there's some vibrant anti-imperialism wing among Democrats - which
Dems are denouncing US involvement in Ukraine the way Tucker Carlson
or @RepThomasMassie are? - this split on the Right is a vital
opportunity.
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@ggreenwald
Feb 5
Just as she was one of the few Dems to oppose a new War on Terror for
1/6, and just as she was one of only 3 Dems to join the GOP in voting
NO on $2b more for the Capitol Police, @IlhanMN did this week say
similar things on Ukraine as Tucker & Rep. Massie
Rep. Ilhan Omar
@Ilhan
Feb 2
Rep. Omar’s statement on the proposed Ukraine defense package:
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David Miranda
@davidmirandario
Feb 5
Ontem estivemos no @abrigo_hope visitando os animais e pessoas
acolhidas lá. Foi uma tarde de muita alegria vendo todos felizes,
saudáveis, e conhecendo o novo casal (na terceira foto) que acaba de
chegar para ajudar com a bicharada.
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Tim Dillon
@TimJDillon
Feb 4
Henry Kissinger is removing his podcast from Spotify.
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@ggreenwald
Feb 5
This is a great and important NYT op-ed on the raging foreign policy
debate within the GOP and American right -- far more vibrant than the
lock-step Dems -- and how how the GOP establishment is trying to keep
the party pro-war, imperialist and militarist:
nytimes.com/2022/02/05/opini…
Opinion | Hawks Are Standing in the Way of a New Republican Party

Conservatives must make a clear break with neo-neoconservative foreign policy.
nytimes.com
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@ggreenwald
Feb 5
These first 3 paragraphs capture the crucial fight taking place on the
American right: between classic US war fanatics (necons) and those
trying to pry control from them for the GOP. The left needs to deny
this is happening because nothing similar is happening among
Democrats:
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@ggreenwald
Feb 5
Even if you're on the left and you've deluded yourself into believing
there's some vibrant anti-imperialism wing among Democrats - which
Dems are denouncing US involvement in Ukraine the way Tucker Carlson
or @RepThomasMassie are? - this split on the Right is a vital
opportunity.
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Saagar Enjeti
@esaagar
Feb 5
The effort to smear Joe Rogan as a racist is one of the most
despicable efforts I’ve ever seen in my lifetime. They don’t actually
care, they’re just trying to destroy him. We either live in a society
where context matters or we don’t. By their standard Joe Biden is a
racist
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Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
Feb 5
This @rustyrockets video mocking @brianstelter for his view that CNN
doesn't spread disinformation while Rogan does is superb. Highly
recommended. By far the most damaging disinformation comes from the
corporate outlets pretending to combat it:
inv.skrep.eu/watch?v=DtUJpWYt…
Now It Makes Sense

CNN’s Brian Stelter said this week that because of Joe Rogan “winging
it” people have stopped trusting “real newsrooms”. Could another
explanation come from ...
youtube.com
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Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
Feb 5
Note that Brand's video has already been watched by 1.1. million
people -- far bigger than Stelter's audience and double CNN's
prime-time shows. Do you see why they're so desperate: smearing
everyone independent as "far-right" conspiracy theorists and begging
for mass censorship?
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@ggreenwald
Feb 5
For those who haven't seen it: The Media Outlets Demanding Joe Rogan's
Removal from Spotify Spread Far More Disinformation
rumble.com/vtunof-the-media-…
The Media Outlets Demanding Joe Rogan's Removal from Spotify Spread
Far More Disinformation

To justify their efforts to pressure Spotify to remove Joe Rogan,
employees of media corporations claim to be deeply concerned by the
"disinformation" he is spreading. Yet nobody spreads disinformatio
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@ggreenwald
Feb 5
I keep hearing the claim that nobody in DC wants war with Russia over
Ukraine and yet every time you turn around, you see another neocon
(found at NBC/CNN/WP) and/or Obama officials making arguments with no
logical point other than wanting war -- direct or indirect - with
Russia:
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Aaron Maté
@aaronjmate
Feb 5
1/2 Spoke tonight about the Russiagate playbook, illustrated by the
treatment of AP's Matt Lee, of US officials lodging allegations
against Russia and then painting any skepticism as Kremlin
subservience. Its roots lie in partisan hackery & bipartisan neocon
hegemony:
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Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
Feb 5
Seems like we're on a path where we're going to have two of
everything, depending on one's political ideology: segregated
websites, financial systems, even charitable giving, the result of
systematically banning non-liberals. Seems like that leads to a bad
and dark place.
CBC News Alerts
@CBCAlerts
Feb 4
GoFundMe says no further funds will be distributed directly to the
organizers of the Freedom Convoy protests. The crowdfunding firm says:
'We now have evidence from law enforcement that the previously
peaceful demonstration has become an occupation.' Full statement:
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@ggreenwald
Feb 5
Recall: @TheRickWilson bilked gullible liberals out of $65k using
@GoFundMe for a film that never came. He kept promising to get more
money, yet: nothing. Despite this being reported and denounced,
@GoFundMe did nothing because "the film was anti-Trump:
foxnews.com/politics/lincoln…
Lincoln Project's Rick Wilson raised $64G for anti-Trump film that was
never released

Rick Wilson, co-founder of the anti-Trump Lincoln Project PAC, raised
nearly $65,000 for an in-production film called "Everything Trump
Touches Dies" that has yet to be released.
foxnews.com
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Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
Feb 5
A few more pictures -- taken by an actual professional -- of the day
we spent at our @abrigo_hope shelter in Maricá. The first photo is of
the latest previously homeless people, a couple, who ended up losing
their apartment because of the pandemic and now live and work there.
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Stephen L. Miller
@redsteeze
Feb 4
Curious, has Michael Avenatti ever been on Joe Rogan?
Jerry Dunleavy
@JerryDunleavy
Feb 4
Michael Avenatti
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